Or in both cases, if and when your cat goes out, supervise the trip or put your cat on a leash. Yes dogs roaming are far more of a threat than cats and cause road accidents too. I support both PETA and Nathan Winograd. Sit down and talk with your neighbor if possible. People like that you just cant reason with, I asked them nicely to stop their harrassment of us and our cats, that only made it worse. If you read Ruths comments properly you will see that those NFH owned the street by bullying and you will also see that her cats stayed in her own garden,they were just another means of the creeps getting at her. I'm not defending your neighbor here, but have you put yourself in his shoes? Telling her, "Look. Im sure by now you realize I was addressing the two self-victimizing women who always blame everyone else to control and manipulate everyone. Lawsuits are now being settled by the use of cheap and easily set up recording devices. Very long story short my moms neighbor threatened to kill one of our cats named Tokie, Tokie was only 6 months old very sweet cat, the day after the neighbor threatened to kill the cat Tokie was found partially paralyzed and badly injured, barely 12 hours later the cat died from injuries, it appears the cat was stomped on or slammed into something with great force, he was not run over cause the cat couldnt walk and was found on the porch no where near traffic and it wasnt done by an animal because there is no bite marks, we did report it to the police but the cops did nothing and didnt look at the cat, on top of that the neighbor has been harassing me, my family, my 16 year old niece and our friends online, 4 of his friends who are all adults were also harassing us and one guy said fuck that cat. Very scary, because he beat that dog all the time, so we just werent sure how he would react to any sudden movement. Hi, my name is AUGGIE and I am estimated to be 9 months old. Yes, she will shoot your cat if she has a gun and believes that she can. Simply astounding. Though he claimed he was immune from prosecution under . How do I properly apologize to a good friend and let them know that I did not actually want them to move to another city? When they put up the barbed wire I actually phoned the police and the RSPCA and was told nothing could be done until a cat was injured! I just hate him and know one day he will have to answer to a greater power. I asked her if that's because of my cat, she tells me that I'm "ruining her life," and he doesn't want to have to "give up bird watching on account of my cat." Thanks everyone, i will speak to the SSPCA tomorrow and see what they recomment with the police etc. I don't think it's rude to communicate with a card. It sucks ass, but if that is what you have to do to stop your psycho neighbour shooting her, it may be the only option you have besides moving. 2023 Hearst UK is the trading name of the National Magazine Company Ltd, 30 Panton Street, Leicester Square, London, SW1Y 4AJ. Gather evidence. It may bring some satisfaction but the objective is to stop your cat being hurt. If it is going on the neighbor's property, it's possible they could take some action. She also yelled through my door that she would "kick my ass" next time she sees me and throw my cat up against the wall. If someone threatens the cats you care for, you should take it very seriously. Harming animals with a sense of elation is a huge red flag personality indicator. In Britain the answer might be: if you have a garden of sufficient size, build a cat enclose. Don't name names, but include your neighbour in the distribution. One of them gave birth else where and brought the kittens to us now after 2 months now they are playing among themselves in my neighbors yard in which they dont mind as they are not hurting anything and the jerk next door to them starts spitting at them and mind you in the past this guy even though I have no proof but know in my heart it was them poisened serveral kittens on me he is just a hater!!!! A lot of people hate that. Threatening to harm pets or neglect them is a common Narcissistic Abuse tactic employed by Narcissists, Sociopaths, and Narcopaths. There are other ways of deterring cats without trying to cause them deliberate harm. He is Charlie. To go outside their territory puts cats at risk of encountering other cats and other animals who they are competing with for food and who may potentially harm them. Posted January 11, 2010. norsewoman said: There is a simple solution to all this. Some people are cruel sick and twisted. Dissasemble the cartrages and thow away the pellets. I'm sure he knows it's illegal to harm animals as is. If your neighbor has taken the time to ask you in the most nice non confrontational way possible assume they are probably at the seething point already as most of us are loath to say anything hoping the situation resolves itself. Re: Neighbor threatened to kill my cat So my neighbor comes banging on the door at 3AM cussing and all pissed cause his dog got out while chasing my cat. Oooops, you just caught yourself in one of your own HUGE lies. In the given case that you prime goal is to let your cat stay alive, I wouldn't go into any details about the threatening he did. This gorgeous gal came to us when she continuously escaped containment and chased the neighbor's livestock. If your neighbor's behavior is exceptionally irritating but isn't life-threatening, you may want to collect evidence and contact authorities (local precinct, cops . You are responsible for your cat's activities, however. While I was away, this neighbor rang our doorbell accompanied by her 9 year-old daughter and the daughter's friend, a little boy. If a dispute is just that, try to stay out of it as much as you can. Depending on the state you live in it may very well be legal for him to shoot your cat. All rights reserved. They had no cause to hate us or our cats, at the time we had 2 x 9 year old quiet neutered cats who never went from our own garden unless into the field beyond. Collect Evidence & Try to Force Your Neighbor to Move. It's not true as we have witnesses, including me, that the dog was off leash and ran after my cat while he hid in the bushes, and this isn't the first time a dog of hers has done this. The person in the picture behind Charlie could be Woodsman. By Dennis Romero. I told her I have a legal right to live here as much as anyone else. I just dont like them using my garden beds as toilets, stalking native birds that are attracted by the scrap seed my chickens toss around and killing them. The only thing those people valued was to be able to bully the neighbourhood, probably a bit like yourself which is why you are able to understand their sick mindset. But I am not going to ask for any more details, I heard all that I needed yesterday.Yesterday was a personal interaction (he was talking to a human wasn't he?) Unfortunately, no law in Florida allows a person to shoot an attacking dog in defense of human life or injury. tl;dr Neighbor is upset that my cat goes outside. Well I think it's my cats right to be free and roam, is it legal for her to shoot my cat if it's in her yard? Guess what? I asked him to cite which laws he thought i was violating, and the best he said was, "Well on NextDoor they said " Am I really facing legal liability for animal abuse for a cat that gets out? Not only is she threatening to kill your cat, she is probably ignoring her own dog (it isn't natural for a dog to bark incessantly.) A Florida man is accused of fatally shooting a neighbor whose cat walked onto his property, authorities said. 61. But part of me (a bitter part?) Id really feel terrible to be in that situation. Those neighbours were ignorant bigoted cat haters just like YOU are Woody/Astonised and as I already said they/you can not be reasoned with. They shouldnt be allowed to procreate. Am I missing something there? Animal cruelty. Personally I wouldn't even think about apologising for my pet being in someone else's garden unless they were causing damage or defecating in their garden. My neighbour threatened to kill my cat. It isn't right. Finally, Wisconsin has an interesting statute that prohibits "the killing or aiding in killing or wounding by use of deadly weapon of any animal that is tied, staked out, caged or otherwise intentionally confined in a man-made enclosure, regardless of size." WI ST 951.09 . This applies even if the gun is unloaded and no physical contact occurs. Now i dont know what to do and i feel terrible! Your cat should be prevented from going onto your neighbor's property if he strongly dislikes it. She tells me, "Do you want to die, buddy? Intentionally injuring or killing a cat is a criminal offense. When he couldn't get a good answer he said he's file a civil suit. Here's an article with some more information. Nail on the head there. How to apologize to a friend I hurt two years ago without scaring them? When we accidently went from a modest 2 cats to 4 We realized we couldnt make the house bigger but we could add space by going vertical for our cats. Exposing Cruelty at Berkeley County Animal Control in West Virginia, Cat-alyst Society Monthly Giving Program, Forget-Me-Not Legacy Society: Planned Giving, Tribute Cards and Plaques to Support Feline Rescue. Be less worried about the person who confronts you than the ones that never say a word. In many neighbourhoods people wont mind a wandering cat. You usually find people like that think they own the entire street they live in and can do anything they like and woe betide anyone who questions their rights. Fla. man beat roommate's raccoon with hammer, threatened to kill neighbor. Try to Be Diplomatic. Also, it is more socially responsible to pick up feces if he defecates in a public place, although I understand the difficulties of doing that. Is there a way to prevent the cat from getting out in the first place? So far she's kept out of it. But I guarantee you this, ALL your neighbors perfectly understand it. Its so simple, so clear, to everyone else who isnt blinded by their cats. Technically they would be within the boundaries of the law to kill the animal if it does happen. I actually take him places, and he just hangs out with me so he finds his "outdoor time" in other ways that don't involve upsetting my neighbor. If I had 20 dogs because I love dogs, but my house was too little or I was unable to really be responsible for them, or I just wanted the dogs to be able to do whatever they wanted to do, and I let them wander all over the place, would that be OK? My question is can I lie to him to get a confession and more evidence? They are both obese Bowie's law is a significant advance in the humane treatment of animals in California according to Nathan Winograd. The answer has to be constructive. I got him home from the vet a month ago or so. Consider this your one, and only one warning. First, you can be reported for allowing your pet to roam free and you may be cited by the city. @Zeus, I needed the card for two reasons: (1) If he wasn't home, I wasn't going to loiter and wait for him to come back, the card was going to serve as a message vessel, (2) because I find card apologies to be more thought through and polite. It's not a malicious or even intentional type of aggression. We lost a lot of money on our house having to almost give it away to be rid of it, we still heard from time to time the misery those people were inflicting on their neighbours. So then why do people think just because they are cats, it is OK for them to go wherever, pooping, killing birds, getting sick, getting lost or run-over, having fights or whatever? I would let the RSPCA know about these threats before any animals come to any harm. And yes, cats can and do crap on top of lawns. It's completely different. All of this may sound tough, even impractical, perhaps, but the first call upon a cat caretaker is the cat's safety and if your cat is unsafe wandering around outside because of threats to his health and welfare something has to be done, proactively. Even if you report him to the police its hard to prove he did kill them. The public is generally not legally allowed to kill someone else's dog in retaliation for past attacks, unless there is a legal exception in the law. Why? Not a very nice comment at all. We have 2 ginger cats and they often interact with outdoor cats. When I was about twelve a neighbor let his huge dog roam. I personally wouldn't report him because if he found out I'd have to worry about bricks through the windows etc as well as the danger to my cat. Could I have handled this any differently? But you are within your rights. Did this satellite streak past the Hubble Space Telescope so close that it was out of focus? God help us there are many like those low life bullies and it sounds to me as if YOU are one of them.or maybe you are the cowardly idiot Woody back again with yet another alias. Please comment here using either Facebook or WordPress (when available). For more tips on trapping cats, see the Our cats do no harm just go out for a wander and then come back to their own home. She escalated to saying, "I will trap him and take him in if I see him again." Our cats had never bothered them, like we have here we had an earth patch dug in our own garden for the cats to use. . Many people accept it and like it. Its those neighbours had ZERO respect for US and obviously of the same ilk as you Woody, desperate to convince everyone that cats and cats lovers are the scum of the earth. Apparently he has managed to scale a 6ft fence and go into the neighbours yard, because I had a fairly unpleasant encounter with my neighbour today. If so, how close was it? Its a dangerous world out there especially for animals. Neighbor unhappy with the fact I asked his kids to return our toys. However, be prepared for a solid defense and counter-suit. Fine with other animals, including cats and farm llamas. First, don't worry too much (yet). You comment is incomprehensible (that word means your comment is gobbledegook in case you were wondering). Maybe a fence would deter him? Are there dog haters like Woody cat hater, who hate all dogs and their owners too I wonder? The objective I think is that you have to prevent your cats going on to his property. Well Ive got news for you, YOU are exactly that with knobs on! I live on a small semi-private street in a large city. A little while after she left, things got better with this neighbor. Your pet is safest in your care and eyesight. She told me I'm a Trump supporter (I'm not) and I'm not welcome in this neighborhood if those are my values. For example, Alabama's minimum punishment for animal cruelty is a $1,000 fine, six months of jail time, or both. Despite the fact that the number of domestic cats and dogs in America has doubled since the 1970s, the number Best Friends Animal Society reported a 44.5% drop between 2019 and 2020 of euthanized shelter cats and dogs from 625,000 Somebody asked the question whether animal shelters can refuse animals. along with other people who had the nerve to try and take a walk and threaten them with a lawsuit over the constant nonstop racket of barking dogs. This is because the cat is considered a chattel or a possession, no different to any other item possessed by a person. I'm telling you now that if you say anything like that again, I will involve the law. In that scenario, as long as you did not encourage your dog to attack the cat, it is not your fault. But if you want to keep your cat alive, you may have to keep her inside for now. And you end up with a hostile neighbor which is not good for long term health, welfare and ambience. I think cat haters are very unreasonable selfish people! By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. So my answer to could the neighbor have done it, has to be yes. Random cruelty. I took a few calls for my job and came back out to her and her husband doing their bird watching thing. My Neighbor Threatened to Kill My Cat? In that instance, the use of deadly force against animals in Michigan is justified. Author. So then why do people think just because they are cats, it is OK for them to go wherever, pooping, killing birds, getting sick, getting lost or run-over, having fights or whatever? I digress.Your best option is to make your cat an indoor cat. Type 3: Exceptionally Annoying Neighbors. Thanks for commenting Debra. Your email address will not be published. I agree completely. cas . The dog was fighting another dog and the cat ended up in the middle of it. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I am an animal lover but at some point after numerous requests you find your own life being infringed upon in an unreasonable and excessive manner. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I just read this whole thing from start to finish, comments and all. If talking about your concerns in person with your neighbor doesn't work (always the first step), call the authorities and file a complaint with your local police, homeowners association, or county office. Especially if it comes to a situation like this. This cannot be the first instance of a cat killing a bird in your neighbourhood - it was probably just the public nature of it that freaked some of the neighbours out. But they are bad for native birds. Resolving the Problem Directly with Your Neighbor The best option for addressing a constantly barking or dangerous dog, a loud rooster crowing at the break of dawn, or a cat repeatedly sneaking into your house, is to talk to the neighbor responsible for the offending animal in a non-confrontational manner. Yes I too would report him. Your cats were always under your control and supervision 24/7, right? Ponder this. No matter how much a person loves cats and wants their cat to be content by behaving normally, the cat owner has to think of other people and comply with the law. By Jerry Davich. I'd call them up and ask them about the legalities of all this, then talk to your neighbour. It's not true as we have witnesses, including me, that the dog was off leash and ran after my cat while he hid in the bushes, and this isn't the first time a dog of hers has done this. ..would you like it if I sent my 5 year old son to shit in your garden? They wanted to own the house next to theirs, and eventually did after driving out the subsequent owners. Only Dark Triad personality types tend to . 1. However, it will all depend on the crime's circumstances. No one wants to do anything constructive and everybody loses in the end. Cookie Notice Press J to jump to the feed. The dog came from 4 houses away and my cat (who was resting in my flower bed on my property) tried to run away as best he can, but he's 20 years old. Using Kolmogorov complexity to measure difficulty of problems? While I would never shoot or threaten to shoot someone's pet, I really hate it when they let them crap in my yard and not pick up after them. Your mind is even sicker than I already knew it was! They were literally threatened with death by chocolate. No, it's not legal for them to shoot trespassing cats. But below I recommend an alternative way to deal with the matter which may help to keep on reasonable terms with your neighbour if this is possible. Can Martian regolith be easily melted with microwaves? Any suggestions I can do to get this jerk off my back? There are things you can do to prevent threats from escalating, especially because the law is on your side. Step 1: Conciliation No matter how doomed it might seem, start with the charm offensive. The dog may have a lot of pent-up energy because they don't exercise enough and maybe bothering the cat for this reason. Very long story short my moms neighbor threatened to kill one of our cats named Tokie, Tokie was only 6 months old very sweet cat, the day after the Press J to jump to the feed. They might have a cat of their own that feels intimidated by other cats in the area. But it did! "When my daughter was verbally assaulted while looking for her lost cat and then threatened with a K9-trained German sherpherd, I went into 'protective dad' mode," Persampiere said in a written .